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 Posted: Fri May 17th, 2013 09:56 am
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E-Mail reply was sent, and yes it is meant as sarcasm, explained in the e-mail.

I don't know if adding something like the words sent in the e-mail may help, or if the communication of sarcasm could be better communicated with italics, or some other signal to the reader of better, more effective, design.


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Added words provided via email. Currently the page count has moved from 174 to 175. Perhaps if I don't have pagecount resolved before sending the book back to you, you will be able to resolve it back to 175. The words in red are the words that have been added:


Gold bugs? What is the meaning of that? Gold is fine, very good, but very expensive money when adding up the costs associated with crime prevention. It may not be a good idea to carry around pockets full of Gold in crime infested waters, advertising the fact, “Hey, look here, I'm ripe for the plucking…having and holding large amounts of very launderable money.”

Real cash, if not the stuff needed for Tax Liabilities?

So the competition is really bad, you know, that fraudulent stuff used by very bad criminals who steal the law power, and then make it a crime to use any other money. “Where is my washing machine?”

“Really bad things, those paper dollars, bad, bad, evil, evil, paper, the scourge of the earth, that paper, that, that, worthless, worthless paper?”

Do you see? That is a parody on the Austrian Economist Dogma. Fiat currency is bad, so bad, and if it is so bad, why are you using it to such great effect?

The False Capitalists are as easy to spot as the False Socialists. Why? They are both false. They want to launder something. They want to keep their ill-gotten gains well hidden, and how are you going to do so unless you have available a washing machine whereby the evidence of having gained your power working in concert with the rats, pigs, scoundrels, or mammon, whatever, soils the money, marks the money, as blood, or dirt, is on the money, and therefore there is a desire to wash the evidence off the money.

If the idea is to keep the evidence of an exchange from the Tax Collector, a case can be made that it is an innocent person working to avoid having their earnings stolen by the big bad wolf, but is that the same big bad wolf that is called whenever a problem arises during a loss of property at the hands of known criminals?


So what is it, exactly, since I'm receiving mixed messages here: either the paper is worthless or it is evil, and it can't be both can it?

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Gold bugs? Really bad things, those paper dollars, bad, bad, evil, evil, paper, the scourge of the earth, that paper, that, that, worthless, worthless paper? What is the meaning of that? Gold is fine, very good, but very expensive money when adding up the costs associated with crime prevention. It may not be a good idea to carry around pockets full of Gold in crime infested waters, advertising the fact, “Hey, look here, I'm ripe for the plucking…having and holding large amounts of very launderable money.”

Real cash, if not the stuff needed for Tax Liabilities?

So the competition is really bad, you know, that fraudulent stuff used by very bad criminals who steal the law power, and then make it a crime to use any other money. Where is my washing machine?

Do you see? That is a parody on the Austrian Economist Dogma. Fiat currency is bad, so bad, and if it is so bad, why are you using it to such great effect?

The False Capitalists are as easy to spot as the False Socialists. Why? They are both false. They want to launder something. They want to keep their ill-gotten gains well hidden. How are they going to do so unless they have available a washing machine whereby the evidence of having gained their power working in concert with the rats, pigs, scoundrels, or mammon…whatever soils the money or marks the money…as blood or dirt…is on the money…and there is, therefore, a desire to wash the evidence off the money.

If the idea is to keep the evidence of an exchange from the Tax Collector, a case can be made that it is an innocent person working to avoid having their earnings stolen by the big bad wolf, but is that the same big bad wolf that is called whenever a problem arises during a loss of property at the hands of known criminals?

So what is it, exactly, since I'm receiving mixed messages here: either the paper is worthless or it is evil, and it can't be both can it?

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A fine job of improving the power to convey accurate meaning in my opinion.

When it is my turn to edit I can first return here to make sure that I am not undoing something already undone, and I can learn how better to be consistent in those areas where 6 of one is worth half a dozen of the other, where it is better to keep asking for 6, or asking for half a dozen, rather than working to keep the reader's head spinning.


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A fine job of improving the power to convey accurate meaning in my opinion.

I agree, Joe, you did a very fine job!

I was able to work some on the text that you so kindly provided so you may like to take a 2nd look. I moved the part about the bad bad paper money to the Gold Bugs paragraph.

I did this because I was struggling with wanting the text to be italicized, but it was in a paragraph alone and could have been confused with bear words since those words are stand alone italicized paragraphs (with quotes, though). So, see if you like the reorganization. I think it works. But I do not have your brain. You may still like to make some changes when back in your court :)

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Can it be worth less and be so powerful as to consume every scrap of extra value including the nails that nail down anything that can be nailed down?

Italicized "less":

Can it be worth less and be so powerful as to consume every scrap of extra value including the nails that nail down anything that can be nailed down?

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5/17/13 page 9 (Note, also went back to page 5 to format Common Sense passage with block quotes per below.)

“They are just as really currency as the specie dollar, the greenback, or the bank bill. A field which has no fence up one of its sides is not fenced in, no matter how high and strong its fences may be on the other sides. So, the volume of currency is not, in any true sense, limited by prohibitions of free banking, by a return to specie basis, or by any other means, so long as negotiable paper can be freely issued by individuals; and this free issue of negotiable paper is too useful, and too well entrenched in necessity, ever hereafter to be interfered with.” SA3

Removed space bar at beginning. Removed SA from end because Steven Pearl Andrews is already named in introducing paragraph. Also removed quotes and changed to block quote (indented -though I am not showing indent here because I don't readily know the html code)since it is more than 3 lines:

They are just as really currency as the specie dollar, the greenback, or the bank bill. A field which has no fence up one of its sides is not fenced in, no matter how high and strong its fences may be on the other sides. So, the volume of currency is not, in any true sense, limited by prohibitions of free banking, by a return to specie basis, or by any other means, so long as negotiable paper can be freely issued by individuals; and this free issue of negotiable paper is too useful, and too well entrenched in necessity, ever hereafter to be interfered with.1

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I was once more desperate to gain the ears of Conservative Republican, Austrian Economist Gold Bug types; to get their angle of view clear in my mind concerning information such as the above, which is based upon the work done by Josiah Warren in Equitable Commerce. But after so many decades of seeking this information, and coming up very short, it occurs to me that such things are trade secrets, kept secret, for fun and profit. Patents Pending?

Italicized Equitable Commerce and changed semi colon to colon:

I was once more desperate to gain the ears of Conservative Republican, Austrian Economist Gold Bug types: to get their angle of view clear in my mind concerning information such as the above, which is based upon the work done by Josiah Warren in Equitable Commerce. But after so many decades of seeking this information, and coming up very short, it occurs to me that such things are trade secrets, kept secret, for fun and profit. Patents Pending?

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In the absence of confessions, I am left with guesses and my own research, finding Menger and Rothbard which was a Topic plopped onto the discussion table, here in this forum.

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In the absence of confessions, I am left with guesses and my own research: finding Menger and Rothbard, which was a Topic plopped onto the discussion table, here in this forum.

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Or more like the splattering sound that might be heard when a Tar Baby is served up at the otherwise very attractive dinner, right there on the dinner table: smack.

Where are all my workers, employees and the like, when good help is so hard to find - at a discount? Get this Tar Baby off my dinner table! What am I paying you to do?

Combined into single paragraph and italicized the information being said by the fiction.

Or more like the splattering sound that might be heard when a Tar Baby is served up at the otherwise very attractive dinner, right there on the dinner table: smack. Where are all my workers, employees and the like, when good help is so hard to find - at a discount? Get this Tar Baby off my dinner table! What am I paying you to do?

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OK, Joe, I am at another point of indecision. I am adding more italics. The italics added in the post above are right before bear words which are also italicized.

Before this edit, not many things were italicized except for bear words. Now I am feeling a need to make bear words stand out in another way, and have considered underlining. I don't know if I am now overbaking the art. Do you have any thoughts/ideas?

It is not that I want bear words to stand out because they are my words. But I do want them to stand out because they are the words that your words are answering. So I feel like the reader needs to easily know when a new topic/bear question is being introduced, which was the original intent of italicizing bear words.

What do you think?

(I could put the italics in the post above in quotes, but back when the false capitalist and false socialist were talking about fiat money, I used italics for tbe "quotes" by those fictions because it seemed best.)

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I think your viewpoint on this is decisive, and we need to invent a better mouse trap to answer this particular problem.

I don't like the underlining fix for this problem, if for no other reason that the reason of using too much ink. Looking at the underlining, in my mind, looks too messy too.

I'd prefer using another color, or using bold, as you did in the Index, that to me is better than underlining.

It matters not to me who gains or loses any "headlines" or "credit' either, so your words being 2 sizes larger and twice as BOLD is no problem for me, the idea is to convey a message worth conveying, in a better way, as the worse way is unaffordable.

Is there a way to slightly make some words bolder or a slightly different shade?

Did you know that Josiah Warren saw this problem and fixed this problem of having too many limits placed into the STANDARD methods of communication and so he invented ways to fix those limitations? He used CAPITALS a lot, and he also applied the same type of solution to the communication of Music.

I think you are onto a method of improving the book greatly, thanks again.

I don't know which fix will be the best one yet, please experiment some with the book as it is now, while you have it. If you don't find a competitive fix, I'll see what I can do with the book on my end.



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Work from 5/18. Copied from WORD converted to HTML but italics etc, did not copy so I will need to go back and add HTML code here for appearance sake, or I can continue bookwork.

5/18/13 page 10

Here again the concept of closing doors quickly when Bible Thumpers appear on the threshold of the Kingdom: “What happened to my sanctuary?”

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Here again the concept of closing doors quickly when Bible Thumpers appear on the threshold of the Kingdom What happened to my sanctuary?

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Based upon as much as I can gather from your words there is little to disbelieve in scripture, mere common sense; reinforcements concerning ideas and concepts that are plagued with doubt and uncertainty given the weight of the consequences for failing to know better.



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Based upon as much as I can gather from your words there is little to disbelieve in scripture, mere common sense; reinforcements concerning ideas and concepts that are plagued with doubt and uncertainty given the weight of the consequences for failing to know better.



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As to the demarcation lines, well drawn, there is still room for equitable transfers of reinforcing information, despite the confidence in current belief. In my case, I just don't know, for example: this person named Jesus died for me. I just don't know that fact, if it is a fact, and we can call it belief, and how does that work in English, in other words?



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As to the demarcation lines, well drawn, there is still room for equitable transfers of reinforcing information, despite the confidence in current belief. In my case, I just don't know for example, this person named Jesus died for me. I just don't know that fact, if it is a fact, and we can call it belief. And how does that work in English, in other words?



Would also like to change this sentence (moving the modifier WELL DRAWN before demarcation and making it WELL-DRAWN), but did not because it may be just exactly as you want it. If I did change it, it would read as follows, and make the sentence less complex (however, I feel it slightly changes the intent):



As to the well-drawn demarcation lines, there is still room for equitable transfers of reinforcing information, despite the confidence in current belief.

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“And also Luke 8:12 KJV Those by the way side are they that hear;

then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

And in that verse the devil take the word so that they cannot believe.”
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“It says in Luke 8:12: ‘Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.’ Do you see? he devil takes the word so that they cannot believe.”

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Luke 8: 12 “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved."

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Luke 8:12 “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”

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To me, being so far incapable of accepting all the words in The Word (drawing the line in at least one place), the above makes sense in that The Word is (indirectly or directly) Hate Evil.



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To me, being so far incapable of accepting all the words in The Word, drawing the line in at least one place, the above makes sense in that The Word is (indirectly or directly) Hate Evil.

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And such things, being Evil, and such things being deceptive, can be the False Front of Global Warming hiding the fact that productive people are providing the means by which we suffer, having Aluminum and Barium sprayed into the atmosphere causing Global Warming so that the few most powerful among us can inspire us to pay them even more of the stuff that provides the means by which we suffer?



Changed punctuation. Was going to make into 3 sentences but added ellipses (…) instead because I wasn’t sure if I should end each of the sentences with a “?”:



And such things, being Evil, and such things being deceptive can be the False Front of Global Warming…hiding the fact that productive people are providing the means by which we suffer…having Aluminum and Barium sprayed into the atmosphere causing Global Warming so that the few most powerful among us can inspire us to pay them even more of the stuff that provides the means by which we suffer?

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Watch Video: Storm Clouds Gathering4

Watch Video: The Natural Rights Foundation5 (bear links)



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Watch Video: Storm Clouds Gathering4

Watch Video: The Natural Rights Foundation5 (bear links)

5/18/13 page 13



The Rebels in 1776, for example were genuine agents of good government when they avoided resort to deceit upon the innocent, and when they avoided resort to threats of violence upon the innocent, and when they avoided resort to violence upon the innocent.



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The Rebels in 1776, for example, were genuine agents of good government when they avoided resort to deceit upon the innocent, and when they avoided resort to threats of violence upon the innocent, and when they avoided resort to violence upon the innocent.

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“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” Sam Adams



Changed to block quote since more than 4 lines:



Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, What should be the reward of such sacrifices? Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! —Sam Adams

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I have to get work done. I stopped the Tom Woods video on a very good suggestion by Tom Woods and we can play along. I will hit this ball back in your side of the court and ask you to offer the Top 10 Questions that will not be asked during the Election Debates (which I won't be watching without a representative of Liberty allowed into the "debates") and then when I get more free time (ha, ha) I will offer my Top 10 Questions That will be censored from History, or whatever title works best for these Top 10 Questions.



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I have to get work done. I stopped the Tom Woods video on a very good suggestion by Tom Woods, and we can play along. I will hit this ball back in your side of the court and ask you to offer the Top 10 Questions that will not be asked during the Election Debates (which I won't be watching without a representative of Liberty allowed into the "debates"). And then when I get more free time (ha, ha), I will offer my Top 10 Questions That will be censored from History, or whatever title works best for these Top 10 Questions.

In an effort to differentiate bear words from the rest of the book words I changed bear font to Angsana New 11 and italicized it and set the font size to 12. I don’t know that his was a good move. You see what you think.

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In this chapter you will find various concepts, things, and actions compared with one another; thus lifting the cloak of deception so that one might peer into well-lit rooms where truth illumines thru comparison. The concept that falsehoods are dressed up to masquerade as truth, and that these costumes are worn by people, is necessary to understand in order to expose the lies perpetrated upon humankind. When we look within the costume and find the person, the Criminal is exposed and perhaps the people bound can be unfettered. While things cannot be held accountable for the actions of individuals, bear continues to feel that certain costumes are better used to conceal the culprit(s) and to enhance the charade in the oppression of humanity.



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In this chapter you will find various concepts, things, and actions compared with one another, thus, lifting the cloak of deception so that one might peer into well-lit rooms where truth illumines thru comparison. The concept that falsehoods are dressed up to masquerade as truth, and that these costumes are worn by people, is necessary to understand in order to expose the lies perpetrated upon humankind. When we look within the costume and find the person, the Criminal is exposed, and perhaps the people bound can be unfettered. While things cannot be held accountable for the actions of individuals, bear continues to feel that certain costumes are better used to conceal the culprit(s) and to enhance the charade in the oppression of humanity.

5/18/13 page 15



Having managed to get to this point a reader may find the chaotic arrangement of English symbols oddly readable, as the information flow inspires many conflicting emotions including boredom on one end of a scale and then, perhaps, something resembling epiphany on the other end, as if to say to oneself, that is a novel idea, so why did I not see that, in that way, before now?



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Having managed to get to this point, a reader may find the chaotic arrangement of English symbols oddly readable as the information flow inspires many conflicting emotions including boredom on one end of a scale, and then perhaps, something resembling epiphany on the other end. As if to say to oneself, “That is a novel idea, so why did I not see that, in that way, before now?”


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The concept of willful intent may be worth considering in any case. I've thought about this some. It is possible to be less dangerous to life on earth in general, and less dangerous to one life on earth specifically, to be suffering from a dictator who is willfully, knowingly, distorting the truth, whereby the actual goal is thoughtful, measured, and finite, whereby the victim is to be squeezed, and bled, and suffering to a point just short of death. While on the other hand the dictator who merely parrots a lie, where the parroting dictator believes the lie, may not be as well governed, and the subjects are, or subject is, tortured and then murdered, for their own good: according to the well-meaning, but evil, dictator.

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The concept of willful intent may be worth considering in any case. I've thought about this some. It is possible to be less dangerous to life on earth in general and less dangerous to one life on earth specifically. To be suffering from a dictator who is willfully, knowingly distorting the truth whereby the actual goal is thoughtful, measured and finite. Whereby the victim is to be squeezed and bled, suffering to a point just short of death. While on the other hand, the dictator who merely parrots a lie, and the parroting dictator believes the lie, may not be as well governed. And the subject(s) are tortured and then murdered for their own good, according to the well-meaning, but evil dictator.

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1. Willful, purposeful, deceivers who dictate those deceptions, threats, and violence, while knowing their deceptions are false.

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1. Willful, purposeful deceivers who dictate those deceptions, threats, and violence while knowing their deceptions are false.

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Which brings back to my mind the words of Henry Ford:

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This brings back to my mind the words of Henry Ford:

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“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
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“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
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As I was beginning to edit punctuation on Joe Quote on page 17, I realized it was different from Joe Quote at the beginning of the Chapter on page 15 so I have made page 15 to reflect the quote on page 17.

page 17 read:

As with counterfeit religion (crusades, inquisition, end times) the thing being counterfeited is often opposite the genuine article, and knowing this ought to clue the person knowing this on the actual tool being counterfeited, as to why it was counterfeited, and what the genuine article was actually designed to accomplish.

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As with counterfeit religion (crusades, inquisition, end times), the thing being counterfeited is often opposite the genuine article. Knowing this ought to clue the person knowing this in on the actual tool being counterfeited, as to why it was counterfeited, and what the genuine article was actually designed to accomplish.

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Exactly as opposite as is religion opposite false religion, and here is where this meaning may only make sense to someone who is truly religious, since non-religious people or false religious people may consider all religion to be false. So the analogy does not work for them, but suffice to say that an honest factual communication of truth, such as "do not look directly at the sun for more than a few seconds because you will harm your eyes," is opposite a lie such as "please stare at the sun for as long as you can stand it because that is the right way to make your eyes work better for you."

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Exactly as opposite as religion is opposite false religion, and here is where this meaning may only make sense to someone who is truly religious, since non-religious people or false religious people may consider all religion to be false. So the analogy does not work for them, but suffice to say that an honest factual communication of truth, such as, "Do not look directly at the sun for more than a few seconds because you will harm your eyes," is opposite a lie such as, "Please stare at the sun for as long as you can stand it because that is the right way to make your eyes work better for you."

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The word Union has a much greater significance now that I can apply it to the Union of Law professionals, which is specifically designed to be monopolistic. To thereby make Law Power scarce so as to make the cost of Law unaffordable for specific people targeted for exploitation.

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The word Union has a much greater significance now that I can apply it to the Union of Law professionals, which is specifically designed to be monopolistic to thereby make Law Power scarce, so as to make the cost of Law unaffordable for specific people targeted for exploitation.

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5/19/13 page 17 (also changed same way on page 19)

Can I pile more hard work on you by rewriting your sentence above so as to reinforce the new keys that you now have in your control?

"I was born 49 years ago. I only know how Legal Crime is used by individuals today. I know how Legal Crime is used by decision makers in Legal Crime."

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Can I pile more hard work on you by rewriting your sentence above so as to reinforce the new keys that you now have in your control?

"I was born 49 years ago. I only know how [Legal Crime] is used by individuals today. I know how [Legal Crime] is used by decision makers in [Legal Crime]."

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