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I can remember a time when a guy without insurance pulled across lanes of traffic without seeing me and I had no choice but to broadside him.  I remember how angry I felt when the police officer began questioning me.  I can't imagine how the family with the missing mother feels.

I was listening to stuff about communist subversion activities in the US a couple of weeks ago.  One of the things that stuck out to me was the information regarding the National Lawyers Guild.  I can't remember what was said though.  The reason I remember noting the information was because of your interest in law, otherwise it might have gone in one ear and out the other without me hearing.  Anyways I did a search on the topic and found this: http://www.conservapedia.com/National_Lawyers_Guild

or how about this report from 1959:http://www.archive.org/stream/communistlegalsu1959unit/communistlegalsu1959unit_djvu.txt
Mr. Yerkes became a regular attendant at such sessions, which he found were actually Marxist discussions aimed at the gradual indoctrination of non-Communist lawyers with Commu- nist views. Joe, I think that part of the way the Criminals use the Communist tool in a country is to corrupt the power centers so much that nothing works anymore for the people, and so the people get really dissatisfied and jump on the revolution band wagon and the country is then more easily conquered.  The president has Weather Underground connections.  Why is someone who had communist connections the president of the United States? Why did blue change to red?  I think we are well underway.  I think I remember hearing something on one of those videos with one of the USSR guys saying their goal was that the people of America would want them to be in power. Didn't the Republican Party become infiltrated by Democrats around the Reagan years?  No wonder Red is Blue and Blue is Red.  It is all Red and it is Criminal Red.  The Criminal Socialists took over and Criminal Socialism does not work and when those Social programs can no longer sustain the people who depend on them those people become dissatisfied as well.

Criminal Communists took over Afghanistan. They killed their own people.  I listened to stuff.  It was like a soap opera.  Russia told the Afghan Communist  Dictator to ease up on the people and when he got back to Afghanisan (from Russia) the guy that was killing everyone killed him.  Then the Russian Communists killed that guy and installed their own guy.  Sometime during all of that they were rounding up women and children and lighting them on fire because those women and children were torturing the communist wounded soldiers with knives.  I wonder why women and children would torture the wounded communist soldiers with knives?

And now the US is over there killing people.  Are "we" the communists now, or are "we" spreading democracy?   Who are we killing over there? 

I think that the evil owners of this world use the good cop/bad cop routine to divide and conquer.  I think we used to be the good cop.  I think we do not recognize that we are the bad cop, or maybe some bad cops have taken us over.  I use we and us loosely.

I have a day with the Amish tomorrow.  I haven't been able to figure out how to fix the dots yet. I wonder if the dots are even necessary?

We are trying to purchase an owner finance house because there are no comps and the retail lender rejected the appraisal report even though "we" have already been "approved."  The contract looks like it is all in the sellers favor.  If one reads between the lines, we could have a year left to pay be in breech of contract for various reasons and the contract would then be void and we would be left with nothing.  A lawyer drew up the contract. 

My understanding is such that the Union Lawyers are also there for nefarious reasons and those who do help are the exceptions.

I wonder how one can get hold of one of the exceptions so that the contract is equitable for both parties and no one is left feeling exposed.

I have thought of Jesus's words lately:

Matthew 5:37 KJV But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

I wonder if everyone in the whole world had followed that admonition if there would be any need for lawyers.  Maybe the communists wouldn't have infiltrated the law in the 30's and the government (I refrained from using "our") would not be full of them.  I almost think we were supposed to be afraid of the communists taking over our country to hide the fact that they had already taken over.  No wonder we sided with them in WWII.  We were them and didn't even know it.  And we have been on the divide and conquer road ever since.  We think it is because both sides of the war is funded?  Maybe it is because both sides of the war is fought by the same people and makes for easier conquest.

I think this is one of the things Joe would have to think about.  My head is starting to hurt trying to sort it all out.

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More: http://www.archive.org/stream/communistlegalsu1959unit/communistlegalsu1959unit_djvu.txt

Mr. Andersen has been prominent in Communist-controlled organi-
zations particularly designed to provide legal defense for the Com-
munst Party. In 1922, the Communist International established the
International Red Aid with the idea that it would have sections in
various countries of the world. The American section of the Inter-



COMMUNIST LEGAL SUBVERSION 29

national Red Aid was the International Labor Defense, which served
as the legal defense arm of the Communist Party in this country.
Andersen was a member of the national committee of this Communist-
controlled organization in the early 194:0's and was also on its legal
advisory board.

The International Red Aid held its second international conference
in Moscow. As a result of this conference a number of directives
were issued in connection with juridical questions then facing the
Communists.

Among the directives were : "The proletariat must gather and or-
ganize those lawyers and learned barristers in various countries who
sympathize with the liberation struggle and are prepared, together
with the legal bureau of the IRA, to assist and ^ive legal help to the
victims of the class domination of the bourgeoisie * * *

"To organize legal bureaus in every country where they do not yet
exist and where this is possible, in particular in England, the U. S. A.
and Japan * * *


I wonder if Japan and US had to be on opposing sides of WWII for the reason that both countries needed to be subverted thru the communist lawyers guild?

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Joe, I think that part of the way the Criminals use the Communist tool in a country is to corrupt the power centers so much that nothing works anymore for the people, and so the people get really dissatisfied and jump on the revolution band wagon and the country is then more easily conquered.
I am finding so much information that connects so many dots in the work done by Frank, where it is difficult for me to speak to you without having some reference to that information, but in this case I think I have one up on Frank too.

You are reading information that employs the word communist as if there is significance to that word, and even a group (list of names) who are communists, and to me that is a false or miss identification of the correct list of names, and a false or miss identification of the correct name used by those criminals.

All of those inventions invented by the communists to create this communism stuff is stuff used by legal criminals well before any criminal began hiding his (or her) crimes behind that communist label.

You are beginning to see the concept of a Monopoly of Legal Power controlled by a small, exclusive, number of members of that Monopoly of Legal Power.

Here is where the root of criminality can be followed back to the source of it, in any case, because the source of power is always criminal when these criminals gain their power by employing fraud, threats, and violence upon their innocent targets.

Here is where it is a good idea to step back and realize that it is not a Monopoly of  Power that is the problem, in fact a Monopoly of Power can be a very good thing, and the only reason why criminals get away with their crimes, is the reason that there is a good version of what they must counterfeit, so as to have a good looking false front to hide their crimes behind.

So there is a Monopoly of Power in true authority, whereby true authority is that which works effectively at preserving life, making life better in time, making life cost less in time, and extending the time span of life longer as a relative comparison to life being controlled by false authority (crime).

This is why I do not have any trouble seeing the wisdom of Scripture as it describes a single, and therefore a monopoly, of true authority.

I reserve my power to understand that ONE dictate by the true authority does not apply to every situation everywhere at once, so that understanding identifies the power of competition, as I mean the word competition to mean this very thing, whereby true authority is what is it, in any given situation, because it proves to be the best way to preserve life, make life better, cost less, and perpetuate, in any given situation, at any time.

To suggest that one person, one human being, has this power of true authority, this monopoly power of having the most competitive ways to do things, as Communists, Fascists, Republicans, Democrats, Federalists, Mormons, Catholics, Christians, or Bureaucrats, are apt to claim, is in my opinion confessions of the opposite, as they do not offer their competitive "advice," as would be the case in a voluntary association, they enforce their will, involuntarily, upon their targeted, and often innocent, victims.

The Union of "Private" Lawyers in any age, any place, on Earth while human beings have been here, are just copies of earlier organized crime cabals, using the same routine tactic of constructing a false front that covers up their real intentions, and their real actions.

Communists are sub-sets of people who are employed as lower level criminals following the orders (without question) of their employers who don't have this communist brand name on their "Private" stationary.

Why is someone who had communist connections the president of the United States?
If you fall back into the mind-set whereby there is this Federal Government Entity working to Serve and Protect, then you are falling deep into an abyss of falsehood.

Here is where I think am one up on Frank. I think that the words written by Frank suggest that Frank thinks that The Constitution of the United States was a expression of Liberty such as can be compared to The Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights, but no such thing is true.  The Constitution is opposite in instructing employers of the document as far as intent and actions concerning human action goes from moral thoughts and actions (voluntary associations) into immoral thoughts and actions which are merely crimes, and which are understandable in context with those immoral people who force their will (involuntary association) upon innocent people.

George Washington was the first so called President.

Here is a very good explanation of what George Washington was all about:

Generalissimo Washington

That is the typical "Strong Man" scenario. When the employer needs a hit man, a slave master, an "authority," they pick someone who can create what is now called "The cult of personality" and "Stalin" and "Hitler" are of the same constitution.

Washington went right to work as "President" with the suppression of Rebellion as Washington conscripted an army (involuntary association) while "President" to go on a crime spree, a war of aggression for profit, by invading the formerly sovereign State of Pennsylvania, to crush a money competitor PROCESS that was only just beginning to emerge as a viable, organized, effort, by many people, voluntarily, to produce, and maintain, a competitive form of home grown money, which was whiskey at that time.

Why is someone who had communist connections the president of the United States?
Why is someone who has Royal British Crown (Bank of London) connections the "president" of a Private Company (U.S.A. Inc. LLC)?

The answer is such that the private company is a false front for crime made legal and the victims are led to believe that this private company (which is a false front for crime made legal) is their POWER to command in defense against all enemies of Liberty, foreign and domestic.

It is a big lie, and it was a big like as far back as 1787, as told by many people who were FOR federal government constructions and who were called, oddly enough, Anti-Federalists.

Washington, Hamilton, and John Adams (Alien and Sedition Acts) were all "Federalists" (close ties with The Bank of England and the Royal British Crown).

Who gave the Rebels in America The Statue of Liberty, and why?

I ask because it was the French who were aiding the Rebels against the British.

I think there is some deeper meaning to that Statue of Liberty exchange.

The Criminal Socialists took over and Criminal Socialism does not work and when those Social programs can no longer sustain the people who depend on them those people become dissatisfied as well.
Criminal whatever works fine for criminals. Why is that hard to see?

The Private Corporation that currently stands in place of any POWER (at all) in defense against crimes perpetrated by large groups of organized criminals (claiming any kind of legitimate authority at all) is another organized criminal gang.

Private Corporation.

What do those words mean according to a person who exists in a world where power is increased because of the work done by that individual?

That term, those words, Private Corporation, means one thing to on set of people, and it means another thing, to another set of people.

Private Corporation, such as United States Incorporated, Limited Liability, is a false front for organized crime.

Which THING is run by a President, and how is that President empowered with any power at all?

1. A Private Corporation assembled for the purpose of producing items  of competitive quality for sale at competitive prices.

2. A Private Corporation assembled as a false front to hide the crimes perpetrated by the criminals upon the innocent victims (including child sex slavery).

What is not on that list is anything resembling an organized effort to defend against 1 man alone, let alone assembling an organized effort to defend against the largest powerful army of criminals ever assembled (involuntarily) by any organized group of torturous, and murderous, criminals.

If you are duped into a false belief that U.S.A. is an assembly of people organized in defense of Liberty, then you have not learned much from me in these years we have been discussing vital questions, seeking accurate answers.

Sometime during all of that they were rounding up women and children and lighting them on fire because those women and children were torturing the communist wounded soldiers with knives. I wonder why women and children would torture the wounded communist soldiers with knives?
If too many innocent people are led to believe that the way to defend Liberty is to torture and murder the torturing murderers, then what happens?

If Russia went through a tough 100 year span of time where the worst torturers and murderers where in charge of the so called government, then what type of person, and what type of group do you think will overpower that false government?

Another false government?

Why is that hard to see?

If there is now two opposing criminal forces ready to kill each other off, or die trying, then that scenario is what I call The Routine.

Is there, possibly, ONE group that sets all of that destructive POWER to be exactly what it is in due time?

If so, how could that ONE group be found?

How about following the ONE Legal Money Power to the source of it?

What will you find?

You, me, anyone, will find a POWER that can buy anything that can be purchased with Legal Money.

Anything.

Is that a substantial POWER?

Can a War be bought?

How can a war be bought?

Here, again, are three links that should be considered when asking these vital questions, seeking accurate answers:

Buying employees hired to make War real.

Money to spare to hire more employees.

Who actually pays the bills when the purchases are paid in full?


And now the US is over there killing people. Are "we" the communists now, or are "we" spreading democracy? Who are we killing over there?

Here is someone who was hired to kill people in recent "war" purchases:

Adam Kokesh

Here is another:

Pat Tillman

Note: The setting of those "testimonies" are inside of a Private Corporation which is a False Front for Organized Crime.

Frank has an interesting entomology on the word testimony.

I wonder how one can get hold of one of the exceptions so that the contract is equitable for both parties and no one is left feeling exposed.
I do not know if you can ever gain legal title in such a way as to then feel secure. I think it is more important to think in terms of reducing the cost of living, and along those lines there will always be criminals seeking to steal some of your power in some way.  How you balance the books is not how I balance the books, so I can't be of much help.

I can offer a link and a concept of making sure that whatever you do end up signing, as a contract, or whatever you want to call it, an agreement to pay an extortion fee, whatever you want to call it, the actual section of land described in great detail on the record, the paper, the official sounding, approved, stamped, measure of Earth, needs to be cleared as far as chain of title goes.

The term is Abstract Title, or finding each recorded transfer of title, so as to end up with Allodial Title.

Land Patents

I think that you may find some feeling of security if you listen to some of the information offered by that person, and then you can, possibly, find out specific things concerning a specific area of Earth that may be of interest to bear and the precious family in her world.

I don't think you can find any feeling of security if your world view is built upon a false appraisal of the current ROOT of false authority which is nothing more or less than organized crime, or the color of law, at the base of it, there in Washington D.C., which is a so called "Private" corporation.

Example:

If you get something that says you have this Allodial Title, according to The Federal Government, which overpowers the State Government, then as far as the current POWER structure works, you own that land, free and clear.

That can be worth something to you, to your family, for a long time.

That can work to reduce the amount of power you need to pay those payments demanded by those who end up demanding payments from you.

If so, if you find, and get, something similar to Allodial Title, and power flowing from you to anyone demanding power from you is reduced, then that sounds like a very good way to feel better in your lifetime.

If you are worried about possibly stepping on a mine (the contract is a mine field) then your fears may be overblown. Banks (so called) make sure that they get every advantage during the process of transferring title. We all work for the Banks, so called, so they (The so called banks) do as they please. Everyone is going through these mind fields, but many people are gaining some form of title, as they walk through the mine fields.

So you want a title. If you get one, then make sure you record a transfer of the title to your children, so as to avoid the process called "probate," if that is at all possible.

You won't get a perfect, honorable, voluntary, agreement, or equitable transfer, when dealing with the false bank, and the false government that is hired and working for the false bank, but you can minimize the injury, meaning that you can reduce the mines in the field between you, where you are now, and that goal of gaining a recorded title of ownership.

I don't know the details in the paper work precisely.

I can't help as a Union Lawyer or a Non-Union Lawyer, and that is why I am now reading the work done by Frank, because he looks to me like the most accurate source of information concerning which POWER is on top at this time, and which POWER will be on top (might makes right or the opposite POWER) in the near, and far, future.

A deal made with criminals is only as good as long as the criminals stay in power.

But your part of the deal, maintained accurately, honestly, honorably, will always be recognized as such by fellow Friends IN Liberty.

So...to me the link showing how Title of Land works according to the supposed Federal Government, going back since it began 200 odd years ago, is a good way to begin finding some sense of security in knowing how that works now, from how it worked along the way up to now, in this place where this land exists.

If land title is causing you stress now, then listening to that link above sounds like it may be much better than listening to information concerning the nebulous communists.

Here is the link again:

IF THERE IS ONE LIE KNOWN -- IS NOT ALL ELSE SUSPECT?

No wonder we sided with them in WWII.
There you go again. If the links offered above, on Wall Street buying FDR, buying Hitler, and Buying Stalin, are of no value to you, because the information is false, or meaningless, to you, then I can understand why you fall back into this "we sided with them" concept.

So be it.

I find the information offered by Anthony Sutton to fit very well into my understanding of how Legal Crime works as a Legal Money Monopoly Power.

I may be wrong, of course.

We were them and didn't even know it.
I do not torture.

I do not mass murder.

I do not torture and mass murder for fun and profit.

I am not part of "we," and no amount of POWER (to purchase) me into that group will do so, so please stop using the word "we" in that context with me.

And we have been on the divide and conquer road ever since.
Not me. Please stop. I have been on the Liberty road all my life, measured by my efforts to end the day with more productive power compared to what was available at the start of the day, and having been less than what I would have wanted to be, having made many errors, but none-the-less being on the Liberty road all my life.

I cannot be bought, moved, enlisted, or joined into that "we" you speak of, it won't happen, it can't happen, it is not in me.

If I am wrong, if I can be bought, if I some day join them, then may God have mercy upon my soul, because I will have sold it at that point.

Yes, I can be wrong, but I do not profit, and have fun, torturing, and mass murdering, and those in that group of "we" do.

I am not in that group, so please stop placing me in that group with your use of the word we.

We think it is because both sides of the war is funded? Maybe it is because both sides of the war is fought by the same people and makes for easier conquest.
You are not in that group either, no way, no how, so your infection, if that is what is happening still, remains to be an injury done to you, and done by those who are in that group who love to destroy.

I hope that you can see past that nonsense, some day, clearly, and I am warning you again, once all that nonsense is left behind, there will be much trouble in your soul, if you are anything like I was, when I finally shed those very destructive lies.

I do think the moment occurred after seeing another pile of soon to be tortured and murdered innocent people were loaded onto a truck, and I wept at my daughter's bedside, literally crying my eyes out, sobbing.

You are not part of it, you are not in that group, in that sense, this sense, you are innocent, and no, please no, do not place yourself within that false world, get out of it, and do not be afraid, it won't be easy, but get the hell out of it.

I mean, specifically, in reference to the so called connection between the innocent victims and "our" president of "our" Private Corporation, it is all lies, it has been all lies since they, they, they, not us, made slavery legal with The Constitution in 1788.

They are evil, you are not, in that context, precisely that context, you are innocent of such things, and your guilt is measurable in measurable ways and it is not FUN and PROFIT earned by torture and mass murder.

That is what causes the sobbing, the weakness, the powerlessness, to finally realize the full measure of the connection, for what it is, no longer any doubt.

Then what happens?

I think there is then a ground zero, and you may have already passed it, probably so, and I am just not understanding you by your words currently.

From that ground zero there is much less in the way of abject fear, and much more in the way of reasonable defensive POWER.

It is not easy, and if you have not gone through something similar to what I have gone through, then my warning still stands.

I think this is one of the things Joe would have to think about. My head is starting to hurt trying to sort it all out.
At least you have your safe place, a place to recharge, to find courage, which has to be very powerful.




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the communist lawyers guild
Are you speaking about the Bar Association?

The monopoly of "legal" professionals dates back further than one of the many labels (communist) covering up the fact that they are criminals.

The label (communist) may still work, as a cover, and may work as a cover in the future, but it, the word, is no different in principle, than the last one, or the next one, as a cover.

Frank is describing a split among the most powerful in the form of the Jesuits aligning opposite the Illuminati. as if the labels are of some principled meaning, one side being good, or not as bad, as the other side, as if one can win and things will be better, and the other can win, and things will be worse.

I see no such thing. I think both sides are maneuvered to be sides by an un-named other group having some power over both sides.

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New?

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There can be no doubt we are in the middle of the greatest power struggle since World War II. It is uncertain whether the Jesuits will prevail and the system restored to order, or whether the Vatican and Illuminati will succeed in breaking the shackles of forced subservience after 200 years.
No source of information I have ever found, as yet, walks the reader through time, places, people, events, reasons, explanations, logic, as comprehensively as Frank.

My understanding fits these pieces into a useable form as a Power Struggle among those who have the most POWER.

If those that have the most POWER order, sign a PURCHASE ORDER, for aggressive destruction, who is going to follow that purchase order?

Not me.




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I contacted someone at Bookmasters through their web page. The person I was dealing with no longer works at Bookmasters, and it looks like my account was lost.

I sent a reply asking if I have to start over, and I forwarded some of my correspondence with the former Bookmasters employee.

I have not finished reading through the last .pdf version you sent, and I can read through that version or I can read through a newer version if you have one where the word file corrects the few remaining bugs, converted to .pdf, if you want to send the new one, or if you want to wait until I read through the old one.

My head is spinning too.

I wonder if this book will be accepted once a Limited Liability Corporation employee, of any power, starts reading it.




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Joe, I was gone all day, but I did get a chance to figure out how to fix those dots in the table of contents.  I finally got smart enough to google my question.  Why I didn't think of that earlier, I will never know.  Anyways, I fixed those 2 mistakes and also the table of contents page so I will send a new pdf = now.

Then I will rest abit.

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I have the latest file and I can go through it just before sending it to the new contact at Bookmasters.

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Hi Joe, Thank you for letting me know you have the files. I'll be happy to help further should you find something I need to do. I will even read pdf if you want me to.

Also, I wanted to cry foul when you called me out for using "we" because I had a little disclaimer that I was "using we loosely."

I have given it alot of thought though. The mere fact that I would even use the word "we" "loosely" reveals that the screws run very deep. The idea that I would include myself in a group of people that rape, pillage, and torture for fun and for profit is a huge failing on my part. Thank you for helping me see once again, even more clearly.

And then there is the other "we" which would just be good old Americans thinking that "we" are the knight in shining armor, when in fact "we" are one and the same as "them" - because "we/them" are controlled by the black knight.

I think I was trying to say that. I was trying to say that because I used to think that "we" were on the good side because "we" were the Americans. And now I see that someone has been using Americans to do very bad things.

Can a person use the word "we" when referring to the country they live in and the people they live with in that country?

Do you think of yourself as part of a country? As in "we" Americans?

The Amish do not celebrate 4th of July or Labor Day as a Holidays. They probably don't observe Memorial Day either. I wonder if they consider themselves Americans? They go to their own Amish one-room school house here in our community and only go to school thru 8th grade.

I looked at the allodial title website. So much of that law stuff is too hard for me to understand. I wouldn't know how to do a title search to get back to the allodial title. I didn't listen to all of those talks though.

Today Jeff went to see a guy that was part of the Flying Tigers in WWII. I asked Jeff if he had shot down any Nazis. Jeff told me he was in the Pacific Theater. Joe, have you ever thought about the way they call war/killing zones Theaters? Talk about the Old Coliseum Days...Instead of Ceasar watching a couple of Gladiators, or some wild beasts tear Christians apart...The Cesars of the world have killing zones called Theaters. I wonder if that is a coincidence? Jeff seemed taken back my comments regarding the word Theater...I will probably hear him using the example later. That seems to be how it works around here. He can't completely accept my words when I say them, and then I find him repeating them like they were his. It is kind of funny to me. At least some of the information is getting thru! And he is telling other people, so the news spreads one way or another :)

I am looking forward to handing him a copy of Joe Quotes!

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No word yet back from Bookmasters, but it is the weekend so I am giving them until Monday, before I respond, actually it is early Monday right now.

I started just now on re-reading the .pdf file and I found this:


Acknowledgments .............................................................................. vii
Foreword ........................................................................................... viii
Introduction ......................................................................................... xi

That (above) is cut and pasted from the .pdf
The cut and paste below is an edit I did to the word file, to match up the numbering as it should be when each page (even blank pages) are Roman Numerals? I won't try to convert the word file to .pdf unless you respond with the OK to do so, along with a reminder on how to do it, or where I need to go to get the instructions on how to convert. I am also keeping track of any other things I may yet find.

Acknowledgments......................................................................................... vi
Foreword...................................................................................................... viii
Introduction.................................................................................................... ix



I will finish the book after I ready your response here.

I am on page 86. I have found no other errors and I am checking to make sure the footnotes are the same footnote numbers on the Index page here on this forum. No errors there either.

I checked my e-mail and Bookmasters sent me a note.

I replied with these words (just now):


Ryan,

I am not one for phone calls. My thinking works better in type, so I type.

100 copies, how much? I have found only 2 errors in my latest reading of the .pdf file for the book, and I will finish reading through the text today. I may be able to send the completed .pdf file for submission before this Friday; possibly sooner. Does your company have methods of proofing the text files before running 100 copies?

I will be needing help selling the book. Does your company deal in digital marketing?

Joe


Page 144

"The Other Founders
About the book: "The struggle over the U.S. Constitution in 1788 pitted

The 1 above (before 788) is a footnote (small raised symbol) not a number. I can change that now in the word file.




I noticed that my word file was left open on my computer, so it is possible that other things were changed while I was monkeying around with other open windows.

I really think, at this point, that it would be a good idea for bear (Editor in Chief) to make these few changes to her copy of the Word file, then reformat in .pdf, and then resend the .pdf (checking or not checking through the file one more time on your own) while I check, or not, one more time too.

Bookmasters, I see now, have responded.





 
bear,

Here is the reply from Bookmasters:


Hello Joe,   I have to wait on print pricing until I get the quote back from estimating.  We can proofread before going print but in order to quote you on this service I need a sample chapter for the editorial director to review.  For proofreading we have 3 levels: light, moderate and heavy.  The sample will help determine the level needed for your book.   We do offer marketing services. I'd like to know a little about your book.  Are you doing anything is market it currently?  Do you have a distributor?  What are your goals for your book(s)?  Are you currently utilizing social media?   Thank you,
I am wondering if you think it is a good idea to have your e-mail address added to this negotiating process. I don't want to suggest that I think you should, because I don't, I think that the offer is worth offering, so as to allow you the opportunity to decide what is best for bear, and family.

My costs of printing will be mine, exclusively, since I am in charge of my book selling, but I do appreciate help, when help arrives from wherever help originates.

I can cut and paste these messages that constitute the process of book selling here, too, and be happy with any help that you may be able to offer.

As far as these words, that are yours and mine, again, the realization of any income above costs are split 50/50, as far as I am concerned. That was an old offer still standing that way.

I still have more reading to do, and I am going to think about my answer (my reply)  to the latest e-mail from Bookmasters. They have not yet sent a price for 100 prototype copies of the book.

  What happens in the event that the printer receives a file that is in some way altered while the file is under their control, and then the 100 books are misprinted?


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I can get back to book work after responding to your latest, welcome, vital questions, as I share a need for accurate answers.

"Can a person use the word "we" when referring to the country they live in and the people they live with in that country?"

I ask people questions so as to find better answers since my answers are very likely to be not good enough, and example of a vital question is:

"How does anyone accurately discriminate between friend and foe?"

We are those who want to know that answer so as to disconnect from foes, if at all possible, so as never to be victims.

We are not those who want to know that answer so as to connect to fellow criminals who are then working cooperatively to injure innocent victims for fun and profit.

So...again...there are two worlds and if you are in one, this Liberty one, then the other one, that Criminal one, is foreign to you, a world apart.

It is in the best interest of Legal Criminals to have their victims confusing Liberty and Legal Crime, as if they are one and the same thing.

Is that what is happening in your case right now?

Do you think of yourself as part of a country? As in "we" Americans?
Since I've read Franks work on where the word America comes from, and the meaning is almost the same as a Sea of Lost Souls ready for Exploitation, then your question, in that context, is this:

Do I think of myself as a lost soul in a sea of lost souls whereby each lost soul is ever ready to be exploited by those who see America as a place where a new victim is born every minute?

The answer to that question is no.

I linked earlier links connecting you, me, and anyone else, to recorded evidence concerning the lives of two people, one named Pat Tillman, who was murdered, and one named Adam Kokesh, where Adam Kokesh is currently held captive by those who capture lost souls and exploit whatever can be exploited out of lost souls.

How do you tell friend from foe?

I consider myself to be on the side of those who finally realize that it is not a good idea to keep sending every kilowatt/hour of power earned to really evil people, and I think both Pat Tillman and Adam Kokesh have figured out similar things before the one was murdered, and that one was murdered because of his "change of heart," and the other one is now kidnapped, as far as I can tell, because of his "change of heart."

1.
Following criminal orders without question

2.
Resisting the following of criminal orders

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Fighting the Legal Criminals face to face

When I ran for congress I was fighting the legal criminals face to face, and those who know that their "votes" are not counted, know not to let anyone else in on the secret, so they pretend to vote, while they work to ensure that the criminals remain in power.

What is the meaning of the silence after "I agree with you, but-"?

I am a part of a force that is NOT willful investments in perpetuating a Legal Crime Monopoly Money Power and all the Torture and Mass Murder that is required, so as to have my fun, and my profits, at the expense of so many millions, and now billions of innocent victims (innocent in the specific and not ambiguous or abstract meaning).

We who willfully work to end up with abundant power instead of power scarcity forced upon the innocent are NOT in the same group as Legal Criminals.

So...how do you tell friend from foe?

How do you do so accurately?

I wonder if they consider themselves Americans?
I wonder if the Amish founding fathers figured out the same thing Frank figured out as to the entomology of the word America: sea of lost souls (or some other, similar, meaning).

I wouldn't know how to do a title search to get back to the allodial title.
Ask anyone who is seeking your signature on a document if they can help you get a Title Abstract or Abstract of Title, and tell them you want a complete one, not an incomplete one, and see, from that question, if you then find out how to "get back to the allodial title."

You are not "getting back to the allodial title," the idea is to confirm that the title you are buying is not false in ways that are on the record, such as a title that at one time was a Tax Lean Sale, which (according to the person in the link) is a source of trouble, which is not good, if you want "Fee Simple" or "Clear Title" or "Unencumbered Title" or a title that does not have a "cloud" on it, whereby you want something as close as possible to Allodial Title  according to the current rules in force, pretty much world wide, or Nation Wide at least.

The link is not that difficult to understand, if the listener can remain awake, but the main point stressed was to complete a Title Abstract ( find the complete chain of title) recorded officially by those who will be judging any disputes that may arise against your claim of title, after you pay to get title, and the link stresses the importance of making sure that there are no Tax Lean Sales in that chain of title.

The link stresses that Title Insurance Companies do not necessarily (or not even often) track back the chain of title (they do not preform a complete Title Abstract) for reasons explained, and that means that YOU may be holding an unenforceable Title in a case where there was a Tax Lean Sale in the chain of title, where even Title Insurance Companies may not find such things as a Tax Lean Sale in the chain of title, and so you may be buying an empty bag.

If you are armed with this information then you can at least ask if the title search done is complete, and the secret hand shake type terminology for asking that question is Title Abstract, so as to end up with Allodial Title.

It is like saying, OK, do I really own the property, or is this "good enough for government work" as there has not been a complete title search done, there has not been a Title Abstract done, so there may be a Tax Lean Sale done somewhere along the line, and so there may be someone out there who can take me to court and get the title stolen from them back, or at least force me into court to pay fees in defense of my supposed claim on this land?

If they look at you funny, then they may not have a clue as to what you are saying, but the fact is that a Title Abstract is a real report of the full Chain of Title as far back as Land Patents, or even further back, depending upon the specific land, in the specific State, in this Involuntary Monopoly Union of Corporate States.
 
If there is a Tax Lean Sale, or who knows what other Land Mine, in the Chain of Title, then where would such a thing be recorded?

How  would someone find where such things are recorded in the Chain of Title?

Do you want clear title, or is it good enough to buy an empty bag?

If there is a possible counter claim, such as someone who "lost" their property in a Tax Lean Sale, then such a counter claim (supposedly) must be recorded in that Chain of Title, or there is no counter claim, and if there is not counter claim, then you have the title free and clear, instead of having an empty bag.

The Cesars of the world have killing zones called Theaters. I wonder if that is a coincidence?
Do  you want to hear the entomology of the word testimony according to Frank?

He can't completely accept my words when I say them, and then I find him repeating them like they were his.
That is funny. I worked for my brother for a long time, and we grew apart because of things happening at work, including his need to feel credit for being the boss, as I remember telling other workers, like me, about how things work in these Employee/Employer relationships.

I said that you have to approach them in a way that enables them to take credit of the idea that you want to implement, so that they can then have a light bulb moment, and the idea is their idea, and in that way the new way of doing things is implemented. If you insist on getting credit for the new idea, it is likely that the idea will never see the light of day at work.


I am looking forward to handing him a copy of Joe Quotes!

Be prepared for silence.

I have no idea what other people may, or may not, think about this new book you and I have created, but I am prepared for silence.


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I went through the book again, this time finding 2 things, as explained earlier in this thread.

The Acknowledgements are not numbered correctly, and there is a number 1 at the beginning of the date 1788 that is formatted incorrectly as a footnote number on Page 144.

That is all I could find wrong. I will think about things until tomorrow.




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Joe, I want you to know that I have just realized you sent me information regarding corrections.  I had seen your long post in answer to my post but I did not go above that post to see that you had noted corrections.  I will look into them RIGHT NOW.  Sorry to have kept you waiting.  bear

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Joe,

Acknowledgments .............................................................................. vii
Foreword ........................................................................................... viii
Introduction ......................................................................................... xi

That (above) is cut and pasted from the .pdf
The cut and paste below is an edit I did to the word file, to match up the numbering as it should be when each page (even blank pages) are Roman Numerals? I won't try to convert the word file to .pdf unless you respond with the OK to do so, along with a reminder on how to do it, or where I need to go to get the instructions on how to convert. I am also keeping track of any other things I may yet find.

Acknowledgments......................................................................................... vi
Foreword...................................................................................................... viii
Introduction.................................................................................................... ix


When I look at BOTH the word and pdf copies of FINAL EDIT bear3d

I am seeing

Contents
Acknowledgments .............................................................................. vii
Foreword ........................................................................................... viii
Introduction ......................................................................................... xi

I do not think the first blank page prior to the Joe Quotes cover page should be counted in numbering.  So I am thinking that

Joe Quotes Title page is unnumbered page i

then there is a blank unnumbered page ii

then there is Dedication unnumbered page iii

then there is a blank unnumbered page iv

then there is Contents unnumbered page v

then there is a blank unnumbered page vi

then there is Acknowledgements numbered page vii (currently reads viii)

then there is Foreword numbered page viii (currently reads ix)

then there is Introduction numbered page xi (currently reads xii)


I think TOC should read as follows:

Contents
Acknowledgments .............................................................................. vii
Foreword ........................................................................................... viii
Introduction ......................................................................................... xi

I think the error is in the numbers I have at the bottom of the page because I should not have started numbering with the first blank page (which is more of a cover sheet), but Joe Quotes should be number i.

Does that sound right to you?

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Joe, I have fixed page 144 making 1788 all same case:

The Other Founders
About the book: "The struggle over the U.S. Constitution in 1788 pitted the Federalists....

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Joe, in the vast abyss, my words to you regarding:

As far as these words, that are yours and mine, again, the realization of any income above costs are split 50/50, as far as I am concerned. That was an old offer still standing that way.

were along the lines of when Joe starts clearing $1000 a month profit on Joe Quotes, then Joe can decide if bear is due anything. I am serious about that Joe. As far as bear is concerned, Joe can earn $999 a month profit on Joe quotes and not even consider whether bear is due anything, but when Joe earns $1001 a month in profit, then Joe can think about bear. OK Joe? I think bookkeeping (not to be confused with bookwork) will be easier that way. And it is and has been my privilege to work with your words. It has been my privilege to read your words. bear is happy about it. :) I am going to be very busy raising bear cubs, so I think it is good for Joe to manage the printer and correspondence and if you want me to know things, I will be happy to know them. But if Joe can carry the burden of decision making and working with the printer, it will be easier for bear.

OK?

I am now going to send the new pdf and word file to you. If it does not look correct, just tell me, but I think the page numbers are correct.

It is very easy to make a pdf. When you save the word file, just do SAVE AS pdf. But I will be happy to do that. It is probably nice to know there is a back up of the back up of the back up :) It is also important to follow the instructions regarding maintaining the embedded font, or whatever that was called. It is in the notes that you received from the printer and that I made comments on. I relooked at them the other day before I made the pdf as it had been a little while since I had done that and I wanted to make sure I did it right. We already have the fonts embedded in our word file at this point so all we have to do is save as pdf.

Easy as pie. I made peach pie Saturday :) and picked 5 gallons of grapes today. I gave them to the Amish. I am too busy to make juice and jelly at this point. My Amish friend was delighted and she is going to give me a jar of juice as payment. I took the corn and green beans that an other Amish friend gave me to another Amish friend to can for me. The Amish are keeping me very busy with free stuff :) It makes me smile.

And if Joe Quotes gets the Sound of Silence, bear will still smile, and I think Joe will too. Sometimes one does not see the fruit of ones work right away. I think it is a work well worth the effort and it came about in spontaneity as Joe wanted words quoted as a part of discussion and then bear started finding Joe words that were quotes in themselves...and Joe just happened to want to write a book :)

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I just sent the following to the printer:


Hi Ryan,

I have been working on finding the last few errors I can find in the book text file. I do not know what to do at this point.

1. Do I have to print out, and sign in wet ink, and then mail a copy of the contract, with a check (discount for checks?) or sign the printed contract and fax it, or is it good enough to photocopy and e-mail the printed, signed, contract, along with a credit card number (no discount?)?

2. I need more information on how to market a book if, by chance, the book becomes something that tends to sell itself, a hit, or whatever words describe something "in demand," so e-Book information, to me, sounds more important than pushing paper copies of a book that may or may not hit "critical mass," and become "in demand."

3. I can send back the check box information request form, if that has to be done that way, but I see my traveling through this process as my crawling like a baby at this point, so I will have to be patient.

4. I  want to go through the .pdf book text file one more time, otherwise I would send it right now. I an anxious to see if there is any type of feedback from you, or other people at your place of work, whereby the file is looked at, and judged, and either passes, or fails, whatever tests you have in place.

5. Having at my house 100 copies would inspire me to sell 100 copies, to get them off whatever shelf I have here, so the number 100 is good in that sense, an inspiration to become a salesman, but the price savings from 25 copies to 100 copies is not much, so I don't know if the increase in copies, at this point, is wise, or unwise. I have no idea as to the marketability of the book.

So, yes, I have the updated printing quote. Do you want a copy of the text file to see if it fits the required form, and to see if it conforms to the size of the already submitted book cover?

Should I send another book cover file with the text file, and an e-mail copy of a signed contract (if I go with the 100 copies)?

My guess is that 25, 50, or 100 copies of the first (and possibly last) printing of this book are investments in learning, if nothing else, so I need to guess how much learning I want to do at this point.

Joe

I was very much encouraged by my banker (my better half) as she informed me that "You don't spend much money, so it is up to you on this book investment..."

Well, she didn't say investment, but this is much better than the reaction I had when I wanted to buy a 3rd guitar to start making an inventory of guitars for sale.

So, it looks like I am deciding, at this point, to go with 100 copies.

I have yet to read your latest reply here:


I am going to be very busy raising bear cubs, so I think it is good for Joe to manage the printer and correspondence and if you want me to know things, I will be happy to know them. But if Joe can carry the burden of decision making and working with the printer, it will be easier for bear.

OK?

Yes, that is fine, like having a publisher on pro bono retainer.

5 gallons of grapes = a jar of juice = It makes me smile

Equitable commerce measured in smiles.

How is that for a standard of value?









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In my latest reading of the finished book I have encountered a question concerning the page numbers and the page arrangements.

The page numbers are now 176 total, which may or may not be a problem with the book cover file having been made for 174 pages.

The page arrangements are such that the beginnings of chapters are sometimes on the left (back) side, and sometimes chapters start on the right (front) side.

Is that intentional? Is it better to start new pages on the right side (front side)?

I am going to see if I can learn how to use this Word program at this time.

Something is not making sense, since the same file as a Word file shows the Acknowledgement on the left side, but the .pdf file shows the Acknowledgement on the right side.

I will be working on this at this time, but I am sending this message too, in case you are around, and the reason for the difference between word file and .pdf is easy to find, and you have time to clue me in.


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Joe, what a mess...I want you to know I have just come back home after being in town and am looking to see why all of the sudden the book is 176 pages long.  I feel that apologizing at this moment would be a bit trite because I should have checked the page count before I sent the book, but I did not even consider doing that, nor did I expect that the page count would have changed, nor did I notice when it changed.  If I can say I am sorry, I do mean it, but I feel foolish at this time - like an idiot - as Joe is probably sick and tired of bear's poor job with every right to feel that way.

 I too will look to see if I can figure out what happened in case I am able to help in any way.

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No worries on my account please, your help is help, for sure, so discredit is not due to you from me.

I sent the file back to you, with an e-mail explanation concerning my current state of helplessness when working with Word.

We are close to having a quality book to share with anyone having any interest in learning our viewpoints, which is an accomplishment any way I look at it.


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I just sent you an email to see what you want me to do at this point.

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