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 Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2014 06:31 pm
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Joe Kelley

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Pissing in the wind comes to mind.

Be that as it may, my mind is set to explain something, once again.

During a Monday Conference Call a caller spoke of the original wet ink document known as The Bill of Rights which were used to RAT-ify the so called Constitution hatched from the Secret Philadelphia Con Con (Dirty Compromise) of 1787.

I'm going to be more careful now, and I am going to find and link that Monday Conference Call, and I will quote the words.

Monday 06-14-2014

Time: 2:11:50

"So are you familiar that the first original Bill of Rights had 12 Bills."

Setting aside the obvious problems associated with a National leader who thinks that the Anti-Federalsts and the Federalists worked on, and then created, The Constitution, which appears over and over again to be the idea planted in John Darash's head, which is patently absurd, and setting aside the problem of having no way to actually present "the pudding" to John Darash, since he is always too busy, and always interrupting, and resorting to insult as a form of communication, setting all that aside as minor difficulties, the events that have occurred since that Monday Conference Call include:

1. A change on the Official Constitution Web Page from listing 10 Amendments to listing 12 Articles.

2. The offer of information from Frank O'Collins (Australia and Ucadia) of American History including references to the Declaration of Independence, the slaughter of 10,000 patriots captured in the war known as The Revolutionary War, and the Constitution.

3. A discovery within the record of the 1787 Con Con in Philadelphia of the first 12 Amendments, where 11 and 12 are not the same as the Official Current Constitution Web Page version of the 12 articles of the Bill of Rights.

Why is this at all important?

The caller on that Monday Conference explained the importance of relying upon fact instead of relying upon FICTION.

If John Darash is operating under the idea that Federalists and Anti-Federalists, with their published Papers, were instrumental in writing the document known as The Constitution of 1787, then John Darash is relying upon a fiction that he alone appears to create by executive fiat, or who knows, as there may be someone, or some source of information, that inspires such a wild story of abject falsehood.

 The reason why I am taking the time to write this now has to do with two pieces of the puzzle being fit into place as I catch up with the latest news from these two sources:

My comments on the most recent NLA Monday, National, Conference Call:
The latest Blog entry from Frank O'Collins on his viewpoint of American history:

To answer this, we need to look at what happened in the lead up to the stealing of the election of 1860 for Presidency when Wall Street, blatantly corrupted the ballots in one of the few openly conceded corrupt elections. After the Presidential election at the end of 1860, it was clear that nothing would stop Wall Street in declaring their candidate the winner, despite the fact his three other Presidential contenders being two democrats and one conservative effectively split the vote making it statistically impossible for Lincoln to get the necessary majority of electoral college votes.

So...what does John Darash, the vocal opponents of John Darash including William Taylor Reil, and Frank O'Collins have in common?

They all, apparently, think that The Constitution is an effort by good people to do good things, when the actual facts prove that it was a criminal take over created out of a fraudulent meeting, which was then turned into secret proceedings,  which then went into Public Notice as a promotion (as is) of a New World Order, or New Government, to replace the existing CONFEDERATION or FEDERATION of Constitutional Republics, whereby the falsely named Federalists (monarchists) sold the Fraud to an unsuspecting Public, despite the very well done whistle blowing efforts of the falsely named Anti-Federalists who tried desperately to warn the unsuspecting public at large of the crime in progress.

The falsely named Anti-Federalists warned the people about the FACT that the Constitution virtually assured Civil War.

Where does the Bill of Rights fit in?

Remember, please, that the Official Web Page had published 10 Amendments on the Official Web Page for The Bill of Rights, and that was Published in that way for years. I've cut and pasted often from that Official Bill of Rights Web Page, and those Forum Posts are all over the Internet documented that as fact.


I can cut and paste what is now Published, as I type this, to record this fact as fact:

Article the first... After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every fifty thousand persons.

Article the second... No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Article the third... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Article the fourth... A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Article the fifth... No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Article the sixth... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Article the seventh... No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Article the eighth... In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Article the ninth... In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Article the tenth... Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Article the eleventh... The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article the twelfth... The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg, Speaker of the House of Representatives

John Adams, Vice-President of the United States, and President of the Senate

John Beckley, Clerk of the House of Representatives.

Sam. A Otis Secretary of the Senate

Now go here:

While I was commenting on the Monday National Conference Call of 7-14-2014, where John Darash spreads a false version of American history, involving ONE delegate from New York, when actually there were 2, and while looking up the record left by the second delegate to the Con Con named Robert Yates, who is also probably the same BRUTUS penning the so called Anti-Federalist Papers, I found that copy of The Bill of Rights.

Is anyone, anywhere, on this planet, at all curious as to what were those 2 other Amendments of the original Bill of Rights?

No one?

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