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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2013 05:34 pm
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Well, you probably heard of binary numeral system. One that computers use at low-level. Using only 0 and 1. Ternary system is not much more different. Same goes for any numeral system. You might have heard of HEX addresses. Those are written using base-16 system. Aztec people are thought to have used base-20 system. And decimal, our most used system now is base-10. Nothing special about any of them in fact. It's just the way to present counting. Some are obviously easier to implement on hardware level. That is why binary system used there. By charging negatively and positively (having 2 states) we can represent binary system, thus enabling easy-to-implement hardware counting.

What is the value of 0? Is it truley 0 or is it 1? Why? Says Who?

In Taro zero is the Fool aka Jester aka Black Card aka Wild Card. Specifics of such a card is both inner emptiness and infinite potential, because it can represent any other card.

I am going to give you 4 absoulte truths:

Why does microscopic measurement have to be the determination of absolute truth?


Meh... It doesn't. I used it as an example that even in notion that revolves around non-locality truth is singular. Your 4 so-called truths are just playing with words. You can't juice much out of that. It's like saying that rain is made out of wet compound. Doesn't get anyone anywhere.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2013 08:45 pm
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Am I allowed to speak for myself?

Doesn't get anyone anywhere.
I was able to understand the communication offered and I can check to see if my understanding was accurate. I can ask the source of the communication offered to see if she got anywhere.

By using the words offered I was able to see that the person is not just a female person, she is a female person who was not manufactured from an unknown source, as a daughter, it stands to reason, she was born naturally, from a father and a mother, and further this female person, not being merely a female person, is by her account, a person joined as one with a male person, being married, and to add to the list intended to be communicated, to get somewhere, she adds that she is not only a female person, a daughter, and a wife, she is also a mother who has by her capacity to do so, reproduced, and now there are examples of her DNA, combined with her husbands DNA, alive today.

I think I got somewhere, if I am allowed to speak for myself.


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If am allowed to speak, then I'll say that thanks to intrepid and mind-boggling deduction we finally have a firm grasp of the obvious. Achievement get!

Don't mind me. Nothing worth listening ever comes out of me. All I do is just messing with people's minds. Some even do like it. For some it's enough to start thinking for themselves. So I guess I shouldn't complain. I'm gonna shut up now before I made some more poeple write things which leave the impression that they are just slightly upset.

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I am impressed with thoughts of absolutes and infinity, as I read your writing, if that is of any measure of value to you, then my cost of writing the communication is well spent in my opinion.

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If am allowed to speak, then I'll say that thanks to intrepid and mind-boggling deduction we finally have a firm grasp of the obvious. Achievement get!

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins103652.html :

"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

Albert Einstein


I think Joe gave me that quote one time.

I couldn't make 4 simultaneous absolute truths more simple.

Doesn't get anyone anywhere.

Why is it that I need to get anywhere with that truth? Are we trying to get somewhere? If so, where?

Well, those 4 truths have already enabled me to become an Aunt. And there is still the hope that someday I may become a Grandmother.

And the absolute truth is, Sergey, if you are as male as I think you are, you will never experience my absolute truths. Nor I yours.

I am simple. I do not even know what non-locality truth is.

Truth that is not based on location? Or truth that does not have a location. Or truth that is not local to me? I could look it up and see, but right now I am going to go to sleep listening to a Jewish Holocaust survivor. I am in the middle of her story. She was from Poland and she is in the Forest carrying ammo as a Partisan for her Partisan husband who carries the machine gun. It looks like they are assisting the Russians, or should I say the Russians are assisting them, against the Germans. I find her story much more compelling than ending up in a camp some where and barely squeaking by. But then again, her story isn't yet finished. Maybe she does end up in a camp some where.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvTmBEUVcU&list=EC1DEE787E7468D11C

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Oh, gosh... (with strong 'Russian' accent): "What can a mun do against such reckless h..." Ah, nevermind.

"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

Albert Einstein


"Such parlour tricks can get stuffed". Or better yet: "Don't MAKE things simple or complicated, KNOW them to be what they are".

And besides, I have a serious deal of despise towards the figure of Einstein.

I couldn't make 4 simultaneous absolute truths more simple.

"I've been waiting a long time for this, my little green friend..." Wait, what? See now? I can't even get serious when I encounter an "enlightenment" such as this. Even my 'extra provolone' mode doesn't allow me to downplay certain grotesqueries these words of yours imply.

Why is it that I need to get anywhere with that truth? Are we trying to get somewhere? If so, where?

What happened to search for truth? Ah, YES !!! Golly !!! That is THE ABSOLUTE BLOOMING TRUTH already !!! But wait... Thinking ahead would be a horrible thing, something someone refers to as 'competent'. Can't have that!

And the absolute truth is, Sergey, if you are as male as I think you are, you will never experience my absolute truths. Nor I yours.

Whoops, WRONG! But I probably shouldn't explain why, or I might go facepalm-tilt from anything that my response will surely provoke.

I am simple. I do not even know what non-locality truth is.

"There are many things, my friend Horacio, of which our sages never even dreamt"

Truth that is not based on location? Or truth that does not have a location. Or truth that is not local to me? I could look it up and see, but right now I am going to go to sleep listening to a Jewish Holocaust survivor. I am in the middle of her story. She was from Poland and she is in the Forest carrying ammo as a Partisan for her Partisan husband who carries the machine gun. It looks like they are assisting the Russians, or should I say the Russians are assisting them, against the Germans. I find her story much more compelling than ending up in a camp some where and barely squeaking by. But then again, her story isn't yet finished. Maybe she does end up in a camp some where.

Speaking with me about 'holocaust' will not end well. So unless you want to get upset - better not. Reminds me of one sick scenario where main character has to make a stupid choice of either saving his life (for later sudden realization and suicide) or pursuing truth (to be tricked and ending up killing innocents). Sort of like Tower Taro card in reversed position. Problem is - people have problem seeing beyond what is apparent.

But hey, who cares what I say? 'Extra provolone' mode is not going to be disengaged anytime soon it seems.

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But hey, who cares what I say?

I do Sergey.

And I would like to know what you say about the holocaust in just a few words. Not fighting words. Just your view. You see, I am over here, and you are over there. I have only been listening to these videos because I have listened to some revisionists as well.

What I think is that a large number of Jews died. In multiple kinds of death. Just like large numbers of other nationalities and people groups were murdered. I told my husband last year that all I have ever heard about was the 6 million Jews, when there were a lot more people than just the Jewish people who met horrible fates during WWII.

So, I am on a quest for truth. But for me truth does not have to include hatred for Jewish people just because they are Jewish (I am not saying that is your case.) I am just saying that truth does not have to inspire hate. Truth can just be objective. Oh you mean 50 million people died during that war? 44 million, give or take, that were not Jewish? How come I never knew that until now?

As far as I can tell a factual conversation does not have to end poorly. I think information can be exchanged and the persons receiving the information can take the information for what it is: information until confirmed.

Is that not the quest for truth?

I, personally, like extra sharp cheddar and I'll take some blue cheese on my salad as well.

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Well, if you want to gain insight in the topic of holocaust then may I suggest a book of sorts that might be a good place to start.

If I recall it is called "Did six million really die?" by Richard Harwood. Now before you try It I have a few words to say about blatant lie that is written in regards to this book in wikipedia. Publisher actually won to court trial set against him, despite what wiki says. No data provided was ever proven false. Essentially that means that vast majority of public data about holocaust is a forgery. Yet as per usual trial results met all-too-familiar media blackout. Ask any mindful german what he thinks about holocaust and reparations his grandchildren will be forced to pay for it still. Though in Germany you go to jail for any public word against holocaust myth.

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Ask any mindful german what he thinks about holocaust and reparations his grandchildren will be forced to pay for it still. Though in Germany you go to jail for any public word against holocaust myth

When I read those words, and Joe knows I like to connect dots, and I don't always do a good job.

But I hear: maybe a situation has been purposefully set up to put the German people under such a burden that instead of pity for people who went thru a horror, anger is inspired.

Could this conflict have been set up on purpose so that 70 years later, instead of healing, a festering wound continues? A burr under the saddle does what?

OK that is my uneducated simplistice green cheese synopsis not having yet looked into the book you so kindly suggested for me.

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Well, I see it as a big lie (for the most part) that is set to reach many goals. One of which is mental enslavement. To raise a constant complex of guilt and push atrocious laws and regulations with such excuse. One other is racket. I urge you to read the book , it's not at all difficult. And then judge for yourself whether its contents are worthy of trust.

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Is this the book: http://www.ihr.org/books/harwood/dsmrd01.html ?

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Looks like it

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You guys, I can't talk. I have so much to do it is not even funny. The boys have 2 weeks of school left and there is something every night and things alot of the days. I have to get my garden in too. We had snow the first of May so everything is behind. I am not sure when I will be back to talk. Joe, I will try to concentrate on getting bookwork down when I have down time. You will know when I am working on it as I will be updating the editing forum.

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