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 Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2018 02:39 pm
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Please consider discussing the facts concerning the law of the land in America since 1775 and the formation of a voluntary mutual defense association under the common laws of free people in a perishable liberty. I've heard interviews from Cliven, Ammon, and Ryan Bundy in which they have confessed ignorance concerning the true history, the true purpose, and the true goals (that can be realized) of the true law of the land, in America, since 1775, which is often referred to (such as the reference in the Bill of Rights of 1789) as the common law. Beware of effective efforts to counterfeit the common law, with demonstrations of those efforts exemplified in the recent persecutions of the Hammond and Bundy Families. If the counterfeit versions of due process are demonstrated well enough, and if the actual due process (step by step methods) are not known, then ignorance of the true law - as a matter of demonstrated, confessed, fact - is a problem worth solving.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 1st, 2018 04:49 pm
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Facebook exchange.

https://www.facebook.com/RegressiveLeftists/photos/a.665488920242504.1073741829.562871467170917/875276082597119/?type=3&theater

Some corrections to the above report is in order.

1. The crimnial posing as a "federal judge" was among the criminals who were hell bent on destroying innocent people, including many people in the Bundy family. Then, as the persecution trial turned against the criminal "government" lynch mob, the criminal posing as a "federal judge" threw the criminal posing as a "federal prosecutor" under the bus. The crime known as withholding evidence was publicly announced by the judge against the prosecutor, and the trial was dismissed for that cause by the criminal posing as a National judge.

2. Men defending against criminal aggression were not armed "with the same type and style of weapons as the agents..," unless it can be shown that the criminal aggressors were not, in fact, armed with fully automatic weapons. The criminals claim that they can arm themselves with fully automatic weapons, but those same criminals infringe upon the natural right of people to arm themselves effectively against whatever the criminals arm themselves with; for criminal purposes. It can be shown that deception is an armament. The criminal aggressors deceive people into believing that the criminal aggressors are the government, not criminals. Facts prove otherwise.

3. The local County criminals posing as the government ordered the National criminals posing as the federal government, to stop, to leave, and to give back the stolen cattle, and that order by the local County criminals posing as the government was a significant shift in power as the local County criminals were no longer aiding and abetting the National criminals. Of course all the criminals would have proceeded according to their criminal plans had there not been any effective defense of any kind, or insufficient defense as the Ruby Ridge, and Waco examples.

4. This was not a blip in the organic, grass-roots, news services, as exemplified by such notable rising news services as the wife of one of the victims Andrea Parker, along with John Lamb, and Kelly Stewart Harcourt. Of course the criminals posing as "The News" avoid any power transfer of any kind, when possible, to those who constitute the victims: so those criminals censor, distort, spin, deceive, these types of effective remedies against criminal aggression under the color of law.

5. Mr. Bundy did not win the case against the government. The case against Mr. Bundy, which was a documented crime scene, even according to the criminal judge who participated in the crime, was dismissed, and the criminals posing as the government prefer a dismissal over an acquittal, when the objective is persecution against innocent people under the color of law.

If there is a case where Mr. Bundy can win, said case would be a criminal trial whereby the criminals posing as the government are on trial for their crimes that include cattle theft, land theft, fraud, misprision of justice, malfeasance, misfeasance, nonfeasance, impersonating government agents, and treason.

6. The group here known as "patriots" were not an equal force up against the criminals posing as the Local, State, and National governments. It was the Local government turning on the National government that tipped the scale in favor of the defenders who were defending against criminal aggression under the color of law: patriotic duty.

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