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 Posted: Fri Nov 9th, 2018 06:07 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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"Once the concerns about a perpetual body that would assume the characteristics of an aristocracy were somewhat alleviated, the convention then settled on the method of the first senate election. Providing for a rotation that would leave many sitting senators in office would prevent the loss of institutional memory and process."

Once again a meeting of the minds of aristocrats is the crime scene being commented upon in the quote above, and once the assembled aristocrats have somewhat alleviated their concerns over their aristocratic senate being aristocratic, they then moved on to other concerns.

They had more than a few opponents show up to the fraudulent, secret, meeting. How could the aristocrats avoid having plebeian lowlifes show up to their secret meeting when they had to advertise their secret meeting? The aristocrats forming an aristocracy advertised their secret meeting with a call to all governing members of independent states, or at least calling upon the aristocrats in those independent states, calling for some alterations to the agreement. Those are the states formed by agreement into a voluntary mutual defense association. The same agreement that was made so as to form a federation is the agreement that did not afford the governors of the federation arbitrary power. The agreement did not give anyone the power to use the power given to exceed the power given, to arbitrarily replace the agreement with a counterfeit version of an agreement. The strict boundaries of power given in the agreement did not include the power to arbitrarily replace the agreement with something disagreeable such as arbitrary government.

The aristocrats advertised the need to assemble so as to fix, to alter, to improve, to adjust, or to amend the existing federation. That was the federation that was in power when that federal power, made up of all those free minded liberty lovers, and some very powerful aristocrats, drove out the largest invading army for profit that was then running amok, rioting in the blood of the innocent, on the planet Earth: a belligerent, arbitrary, criminal aristocracy, operating under the color of law.

The assembled aristocrats did not advertise their intent to remove and replace the federation, replacing the federation with absolute power in their aristocratic hands. That type of advertisement, a true account of their aristocratic intentions, would spill the beans. So some of the plebs, or aristocrats attempting to represent plebs, showed up to do some fixing: to improve the existing federation of independent states formed into a voluntary mutual defense association, and those representatives who showed up to improve the voluntary federation were in for a rude awakening.

Those in opposition were gagged, the plebes were gagged. The gag order was in place because witnesses (representatives not representing aristocrats) at the crime scene are inspired to inform the intended victims of their pending enslavement: spilling the beans. If the gag order does not work, what are aristocrats inspired to do? Shoot the messenger! Dead men tell no tails, just ask Martin Luther King Jr., or Lavoy Finicum.

Gag orders no longer work?

"One party, whose object and wish it was to abolish and annihilate all State governments, and to bring forward one general government, over this extensive continent, of monarchical nature, under certain restrictions and limitations. Those who openly avowed this sentiment were, it is true, but few; yet it is equally true, Sir, that there were a considerable number, who did not openly avow it, who were by myself, and many others of the convention, considered as being in reality favorers of that sentiment; and, acting upon those principles, covertly endeavoring to carry into effect what they well knew openly and avowedly could not be accomplished."
Luther Martin, Secret proceedings and debates of the convention assembled at Philadelphia, in the year 1787
http://archive.org/stream/secretproceedin00convgoog#page/n14/mode/2up

We were all taught that important message in plebe school, right?

As to the aristocratic Senate:

"The senators will represent sovereignties, which generally have, and always ought to retain, the power of recalling their agents; the principle of responsibility is strongly felt in men who are liable to be recalled and censured for their misconduct; and, if we may judge from experience, the latter will not abuse the power of recalling their members; to possess it, will, at least be a valuable check."
Federal Farmer, LETTER XI.
JANUARY 10, 1788.
Richard Henry Lee (6th President of the United States of America in Congress Assembled)
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/federal-farmer-an-additional-number-of-letters-to-the-republican/

Senators representing a profitable monopoly, aristocrats representing their aristocracy, are not the same thing as senators representing independent states or independent people.

If the Independent States (sovereign states) were in fact sovereign, then they could pay for, or not pay for, a stake at the table where governors govern the voluntary mutual defense association: federation. If it is an entirely different government, not a federation, one that is covertly put in place, then the governors governing the profitable monopoly will demand payments from all their slaves: or else. Don't even think about complaining. Sovereigns can hire or fire their employees at will, or they will not be sovereigns. Aristocrats issue gag orders, and shoot messengers, or they will fail to maintain their aristocracy.

"Whether national government will be productive of internal peace, is too uncertain to admit of decided opinion. I only hazard a conjecture when I say, that our state disputes, in a confederacy, would be disputes of levity and passion, which would subside before injury. The people being free, government having no right to them, but they to government, they would separate and divide as interest or inclination prompted - as they do at this day, and always have done, in Switzerland. In a national government, unless cautiously and fortunately administered, the disputes will be the deep-rooted differences of interest, where part of the empire must be injured by the operation of general law; and then should the sword of government be once drawn (which Heaven avert) I fear it will not be sheathed, until we have waded through that series of desolation, which France, Spain, and the other great kingdoms of the world have suffered, in order to bring so many separate States into uniformity, of government and law; in which event the legislative power can only be entrusted to one man (as it is with them) who can have no local attachments, partial interests, or private views to gratify." A Farmer, New Constitution Creates A National Government; Will Not Abate Foreign Influence; Dangers Of Civil War And Despotism

Aristocrats are interested in preserving their slave trade that has many forms, how does one become an aristocrat after all?

The so-called aristocrats, claiming to alter, adjust, or fix the existing federation (their source of authority that gave no authority to remove and replace the federal government) were in fact perpetrating the crime of treason: they went outside the law that gave them authority, and they replaced the voluntary mutual defense association with a profitable monopoly, including the subsidizing of their African Slave trade with a National Tax which also creates the demand for their Central Bank Fraud, and to ensure their aristocratic ability to make war on any people in any state who dare to run away from their slavery, and to ensure that the aristocrats in command of their aristocracy fund their power to make their targets pay for the cost of the war on the people, that National Tax serves that interest too.

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

How's that for a declaration of dependence?

Damn history repeats for obvious, predicted, reasons.